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  • #16
    Originally posted by sunaku View Post
    I bought the OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD drive after reading this positive review. Unfortunately, for laptops, the Vertex 2 series drives (and also these other drives that use SandForce controllers) have a major bug in their SandForce firmware (both v1.10 and v1.11): filesystem corruption upon resume from suspend to RAM!

    When you resume your laptop from suspend to RAM, it wakes up to a corrupted filesystem. In my case, I was greeted with a blank X screen with mouse cursor (still responding to movement) but nothing else worked: I couldn't even switch out to a Linux virtual terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1). The only course of action was to power down the system.

    This problem has been reported on various forums and is known to occur in both Windows (people get BSOD) and Linux (what I described above).

    Bottom line: Do not buy SSD drives with SandForce if you want to use it in laptops!
    Just get an Intel SSD. Those are the only ones really worth the money.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by thefirstm View Post
      Just get an Intel SSD. Those are the only ones really worth the money.
      That is not true IMHO.

      Intel SSD's cost about 2.3-2.5 EUR/GB, which is pretty high compared to Crucial RealSSD which costs 2.0-2.1 EUR/GB. The reading speed of the Crucial RealSSD is even considerable faster than Intel SSD's (writing access time is a bit slower than Intels).
      Corsair Nova is a bit slower, but costs only about 1.7-1.8 GB/EUR.

      I read a few reviews and benchmarks of SSD's and the Crucial RealSSD and Corsair Nova are the most attractive for the price. But I'll probably wait until next year with my first SSD drive purchase.

      Corsair Nova uses a Indilinx Controller and Crucial RealSSD uses Marvell Controller. I don't know if these work flawlessly under Linux.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fenrin View Post
        Intel SSD's cost about 2.3-2.5 EUR/GB, which is pretty high compared to Crucial RealSSD which costs 2.0-2.1 EUR/GB. The reading speed of the Crucial RealSSD is even considerable faster than Intel SSD's (writing access time is a bit slower than Intels).
        If you consider active & idle power consumption, the Intel X25 drives (idle: 0.075W, active: 0.150W) are much more power-efficient than the OCZ drives (idle: 0.5W, active: 2W) and Crucial drives (idle: 0.092W, active: 1.7W read, 3.1W write).

        Note: I got these numbers from Newegg.com product descriptions.

        For me, as a laptop user, the most important things in an SSD are mobility (proper support for S3 sleep and resume) and battery life. I already stated how the Sandforce-based OCZ drives caused filesystem corruptions when resuming from S3 sleep state. And considering the power consumption of the current crop of SSDs, I agree with thefirstm that right now the Intel SSDs are the only ones worth the money. YMMV.

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        • #19
          Well, this is a little bit to absolute:
          1. product describtions are not the ultimate truth, websides testing those drives reported different results, even if Intel is usually coming out as "good" at power consuption
          2. even on a low power notebook (for example 10 Watts idling), the power diff is not that hight at all, even if we take the debatable values from product describtions it is only up to 0.5 Watts during normal operations (idle).
          3. other aspects can be important too, customers may seek for durability, product/vendor/storage size diversity or performance/throughput, etc even for laptops.
          4. Intel has had its firmware-bugs to, nobody knows which defects appear or will be solved in the future.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sunaku View Post
            Bottom line: Do not buy SSD drives with SandForce if you want to use it in laptops!
            Or just don't use suspend to ram... should boot in about 5 seconds if you tweak it just a little.

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            • #21
              Anandtech is one of the main authorities on the net for all things SSD.
              If not the authority....
              Just look at their historical record of reviews/articles.

              They made it quite clear some months ago, that the new value performance king are SF-1200 based drives like the vertex2.
              They've made no mention of any reliability concerns.

              There's some new Intel drives due out early in the new year which'll prolly take the crown again.
              I'm quite happy with my 2R0 X25-V's for now

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              • #22
                oh... anand also have a comprehensive benchmark dbase which i highly recommend

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                • #23
                  LOL, damn editing time-outs...

                  This view is also substantiated by highly experienced SSD users @xtremesystems forum.

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                  • #24
                    in-terms of reliability in linux im not sure, Vertex2 may be a bit more flakey than intel series drives, haven investigated exhaustively.
                    As i vaguely recall, crucial real-ssd is "up there"; in-terms perf/value ratio...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                      Or just don't use suspend to ram... should boot in about 5 seconds if you tweak it just a little.
                      I'd recommend disabling both suspend to disk and suspend to ram completely if you are using an SSD in a laptop

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
                        I'd recommend disabling both suspend to disk and suspend to ram completely if you are using an SSD in a laptop
                        Suspend-to-anything is nothing but a plague of probably-won't-come-back. I recommend disabling all that nonsense regardless of disk.

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